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|0003990||Far Manager||Dialog||public||2023-04-18 01:42||2023-04-25 13:37|
|Summary||0003990: FAR 3.0.6116 "Search" dialog in Editor/Viewer is damaged now - no working reverse search, no hotkeys|
|Description||1) Previous builds of FAR had a "[ ] Hex search" option for Search dialog. Now this option is absent at all. So, how to search for Hex?|
I found that in changelog:
MZK 2023-01-22 09:32:07-08:00 - build 6096
1. Added "Search for Hex" functionality to the unified SearchReplace dialog.
Internal implementation only; no user-visible changes are expected.
2) Previous build of FAR had an option "[ ] Reverse Search" with a HotKey "Alt+V" (I used it all my practice). It's worked well.
Now this checkbox is removed, hotkey is removed and now there is a button "Search up" with hotkey "u".
But on practice this "Search Up" button (functionality) is not working.
|Steps To Reproduce||For example, I have an UFT-8 file with a few strings "dohod" inside. If I searching from the top of file to the end, using "Search down", then Shift+F7, Shift+F7, Shift+F7, ..., all is working fine. Search down is working. But if I moving cursor to the end of file and trying to "Search Up" - it find the first one from the end, but if I pressing "Shift+F7" to search upper... it doesn't find anything more. So, reverse search (search up) is totally broken with combination of Shift+F7 (Next). But if press "F7", then again "Search Up" - it will find a new string upper (and you can continue to search using again - F7, Search Up, but not "Next"). So, Search Up is working, but it is broken a combination of "Search Up" and then "Next" (Shift+F7).|
|Additional Information||It seems that someone decide to change a common a very usable dialogs without a votes and old UX-compatibility|
|Tags||dialog, hotkey, Search|
Found in changelog:
MZK 2023-03-07 20:13:03-08:00 - build 6114
1. gh-600: Shift+F7 and Alt+F7 now search in absolute directions (down or up respectfully)
instead of reversing the direction defined by the last invocation of the Search / Replace dialog.
Also, on the dialog itself, replaced "Reverse" checkbox with "Search Down / Up" buttons.
How this changes maybe done without any vote/etc, just broke a many years of UX of FAR?
It seems that historical UI/UX for xUSSR software is changed now by the copying UX from different US-based software (like Total/Windows Commander, Explorer, Visual Studio and some others) - that always had a different interfaces/dialogs/hotkeys. And this difference is really huge.
I think this is not a correct behavior to allow such changes.
Editor search did not have the Hex option, Viewer search still has it, see the new radio button above the search text edit field. And it still has a hotkey.
It's wrong, now Shift+F7 searches down, Alt+F7 searches up — regardless of which button you used in the dialog. Please refer to the updated Help.
The changes have nothing to do with xUSSR/USA/PRC/DRC or any other country. Please don't bring unnecessary discord into FAR community.
The main sense/goal of that ticket, that common very usable dialogs that exists for a years are changed dramatically without any votes, just by one person decision. I think it is wrong practice for a big users base.
For example, different behaviour of Shift+F7, missing hotkey Alt+V - these are the habits for a years.
I see this, because I copied text from changelog. But why this behavior were changed from a previous one? It exists for many-many years.
Now it is like someone will change all bottom bar keys functionality (F1-F10) to other, just mixing up. So, all custom use for users for many years are now broken.
It was not a political phrase (sorry), I mean a different many-years-practice in different regions. (For example, you can compare hotkeys for search/replace in NC/VC/FAR vs Explorer/Word/Excel/etc).
|2023-04-18 01:42||alexfbg||New Issue|
|2023-04-18 01:42||alexfbg||Tag Attached: dialog|
|2023-04-18 01:42||alexfbg||Tag Attached: hotkey|
|2023-04-18 01:42||alexfbg||Tag Attached: Search|
|2023-04-18 01:51||alexfbg||Note Added: 0017413|
|2023-04-18 11:54||alexfbg||Note Added: 0017414|
|2023-04-21 00:36||HaRT||Note Added: 0017415|
|2023-04-21 02:38||HaRT||Note Edited: 0017415|
|2023-04-25 13:37||alexfbg||Note Added: 0017418|